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April 29th, 2008
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What Will the Web See When You Die?

Nate Weiner - Posted in Blog,

A few weeks ago, High Society, a ski/snowboard company I’ve worked with over the years suffered a hard loss: we lost one of our team riders to a cliff drop that went tragically wrong.

Out of respect for his family, I will not be mentioning his real name here because I don’t want this post to appear in the search results for his name. For the sake of the article I’m referring to him by the name ‘Tim’.

During the resulting media coverage I noticed a trend that caught my attention.

The day after his death, the opening sentence of an article from the Rocky Mountain News read:

“Aspen native and snowboarder [Tim} liked spinners, bonks and card tricks, according to one of his sponsors’ Web sites.”

That website was ours. And that line ’spinners, bonks, and card tricks’ was taken off of his profile page, which was the first page you’d find after Googling his name.

But here’s the thing. There was a lot more to Tim than ’spinners and bonks’. He was a well respected rider and someone who had accomplished great things in his short life. But you would not know this from the article.

It struck me that journalists are turning more and more to the web and social networks to dig up information about people for their stories. It’s obvious that the author simply Google’d Tim’s name and took out the first bit of information he could find, no matter how trivial.

If you recall the Elliot Spitzer scandal, you may remember the same thing happened in that instance as well. When the identity of Spitzer’s lady friend was discovered, media organizations were quoting her Myspace page and printing photos straight out of her profile.

Now, is that really fair? Or more importantly, is that really journalism? It seems that more journalists, in the effort to be the first to the press, are skipping the interviews of friends and families and turning more to finding out what they can on the web.

The reason I ask if it’s fair: How many of you would like to have your legacy defined by what’s in your Facebook profile?

Take a look at the image on the right. It’s an excerpt from my Facebook profile. Like most of my friends profiles, it’s not exactly on the serious side.

I would hate to think that if I passed away tomorrow that the world would know me by:

“Minneapolis resident and programmer, Nate Weiner liked Rickrolling himself…”

And Tim’s profile on the High Society website? It wasn’t serious. It didn’t mention the things that really defined him. None of the items that were listed there did his legacy any justice.

But why should it? Should we be worried that if we put up a joke that others will take that as our character definition? Or should we expect journalists to be more conscious of the type of content they are sourcing from?

If this is going to be the way it is, should we avoid joking around and keep our content strict?

I would certainly hope not, but it begs the question, if people were to write about you today and used to the web to research you, what would they find? And more importantly, would you want others to read it?

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  1. A friend and colleague of mine committed suicide about five years ago. I found it rather eerie that his web site stayed up for a while after his death. I found myself visiting it, perhaps I was half-expecting new content to magically appear. Eventually the site just disappeared.

    At the time I wondered if I should keep a copy of it and host it as sort of a tribute to him, but in the end I decided it was better to let the site go with him; keeping it was like the parents you read about who lose a child and can’t bring themselves to redecorate their room.

    In this age of caching pages and leaving parts of yourself scattered over the social web, it’s interesting to think that digital bits of your life will live on long after you die. Our lives are ephemeral compared to the magnetic tapes and spinning disks that prop up the web.

    Anyway, I’ve drifted way off-topic from your post, sorry ’bout that! Great post. You have to wonder, though, where the blogging ends and the journalism begins. Are the journalists lazy? Or are we (the bloggers) the journalists now?

    April 29th, 2008 Mike Desjardins
  2. “Should we be worried that if we put up a joke that others will take that as our character definition? Or should we expect journalists to be more conscious of the type of content they are sourcing from?”

    Working in education, I hear a lot of adults tell students that they need to be very careful about what they post in online profiles. I’ve always thought that the real danger wasn’t what students post but narrow-minded readers — employers or college recruiters who would dig into their personal lives until they could decide that someone so sinful couldn’t ever fit their organization.

    At some point, we have to trust our audience. I’m going to try to be a good guy and I’m going to share the truth about my life. I’ll hope that most of my audience understands and the rest don’t really matter — that’s not the type of organization I want to work for or the company I want to keep, anyway.

    April 29th, 2008 Dave
  3. Why are you stressing? The real question is: If you’re dead, why/how would you even care if someone was mis-reporting about who you were? Whoopity doo! If you’re dead, you can’t care. If you’re alive, just be who you are. Stop worrying about what people think about who you are after you’re dead.

    May 1st, 2008 John Baker
  4. I have not thought about the online legacy. In my mid 30’s if I keep a moderate web presence there will be a lot of things to read one day.

    Maybe I need to say smarter things.

    And a lot of pics with Goldy Gopher will be found.

    May 19th, 2008 MN Headhunter/Paul DeBettignies
  5. What you are saying applies not only when you are dead but also when you are alive. How much can people really find out about you just by searching online? Is that personality the real you? For most people including me, it is not (as you say). That’s why its important to have a lot of content (as opposed to tidbits scattered around the web) so that people can see your true self better despite the occasional joke.

    May 28th, 2008 Abi
  6. “But why should it? Should we be worried that if we put up a joke that others will take that as our character definition? Or should we expect journalists to be more conscious of the type of content they are sourcing from?”

    Personally, I do think that journalists should be able to separate a funny online profile from a serious personal description. I do not find it wrong to go looking for information about the person on the internet, however a journalist should err on the cautious side whenever actually publishing something. (Or at least, that’s what should have been taught him).

    @John Baker: You’re right, you will probably never find out what has been written about you after your death. (If afterlife, heaven and so forth do not exist). But it obviously concerns Nate while he is still very alive and kicking. I can also imagine the impact it has on the family of the deceived. Therefore, I do think it is something worthy of bringing in the spotlight.

    July 10th, 2008 Annelies Gijbels
  7. This is sad. I hate suicide. I hate how the web makes death so public. I think death is the one thing the web should, well, leave alone. By the way, question for you Nate… do you snow board? Haha. I would probably fall 6 times in 4 seconds. I ski, though…

    August 1st, 2008 Will

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