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	<title>Comments on: Remember Just One Password That&#8217;s Unique For Every Site</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:33:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: T.U.V</title>
		<link>http://www.ideashower.com/our_solutions/remember-just-one-password-thats-unique-for-every-site/#comment-3409</link>
		<dc:creator>T.U.V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:26:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More thoughts: 

There are some critical security threats: People should be able to understand/know which sites they should register this way.. If user registers her/himself to one or more malicious site(s) which/thar is/are set up to collect usernames and passwords, the owner of the malicious site (or a bot) may try to crack passwords againts other sites by finding and removing added characters of step 2 and adding new characters:

If malicious site is for example www.malicious.xxx, and user has registered with a password 'mihwtmptr', it is pretty obvious that the added character is 'm'. If the user has registered also to www.safe.xxx, ofcourse at the first time the password collector tries 'sihwtmptr' as password :P

There is always also a change that usernames and passwords of sites or services get lost (usually in md5) and are published, as we have seen too many times... And, as we have also seen, people use same too short passwords and usernames in different pages, and because of this real passwords have been calculated "from md5".

If usernames and passwords get lost and are published, this method gives more security, because md5 sums of passwords are not similar. But if plain text passwords are stolen (by malicious sites or somehow) and characters of step 2 have been taken directly for example from page's url or service's name, this method does not help much. It of course makes cracker life harder, because the same password does not fit everywhere. But it is possible that passwords of two or more different pages are stolen and/or published in plain text, and then guessing the method of step 2 may be pretty easy.

So, some ideas: People should use also different usernames (which is not an option, because people want to use same usernames everywhere:) Using different usernames also not completely remove the problem. If parts of passwords remain same but usernames differ, and these have been got lost and maybe published, crackers may just find passwords with same stubs (in this case 'ihwtmptr'), collect different usernames and test them all against other pages.

Also do not take letters directly from the name of the pages, f is not good for facebook, use instead letters next to the f, for example d or g or something else that does not directly tell the cracker the method of step 2.

For "not so crusial sites" this is a very good method to remember passwords, but people should not use this method in every page! 

Do not use this 'ihwtmptr' anywhere, invent your own and use also numbers and capitals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More thoughts: </p>
<p>There are some critical security threats: People should be able to understand/know which sites they should register this way.. If user registers her/himself to one or more malicious site(s) which/thar is/are set up to collect usernames and passwords, the owner of the malicious site (or a bot) may try to crack passwords againts other sites by finding and removing added characters of step 2 and adding new characters:</p>
<p>If malicious site is for example <a href="http://www.malicious.xxx" rel="nofollow">http://www.malicious.xxx</a>, and user has registered with a password &#8216;mihwtmptr&#8217;, it is pretty obvious that the added character is &#8216;m&#8217;. If the user has registered also to <a href="http://www.safe.xxx" rel="nofollow">http://www.safe.xxx</a>, ofcourse at the first time the password collector tries &#8217;sihwtmptr&#8217; as password <img src='http://www.ideashower.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>There is always also a change that usernames and passwords of sites or services get lost (usually in md5) and are published, as we have seen too many times&#8230; And, as we have also seen, people use same too short passwords and usernames in different pages, and because of this real passwords have been calculated &#8220;from md5&#8243;.</p>
<p>If usernames and passwords get lost and are published, this method gives more security, because md5 sums of passwords are not similar. But if plain text passwords are stolen (by malicious sites or somehow) and characters of step 2 have been taken directly for example from page&#8217;s url or service&#8217;s name, this method does not help much. It of course makes cracker life harder, because the same password does not fit everywhere. But it is possible that passwords of two or more different pages are stolen and/or published in plain text, and then guessing the method of step 2 may be pretty easy.</p>
<p>So, some ideas: People should use also different usernames (which is not an option, because people want to use same usernames everywhere:) Using different usernames also not completely remove the problem. If parts of passwords remain same but usernames differ, and these have been got lost and maybe published, crackers may just find passwords with same stubs (in this case &#8216;ihwtmptr&#8217;), collect different usernames and test them all against other pages.</p>
<p>Also do not take letters directly from the name of the pages, f is not good for facebook, use instead letters next to the f, for example d or g or something else that does not directly tell the cracker the method of step 2.</p>
<p>For &#8220;not so crusial sites&#8221; this is a very good method to remember passwords, but people should not use this method in every page! </p>
<p>Do not use this &#8216;ihwtmptr&#8217; anywhere, invent your own and use also numbers and capitals.</p>
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		<title>By: T.U.V</title>
		<link>http://www.ideashower.com/our_solutions/remember-just-one-password-thats-unique-for-every-site/#comment-3408</link>
		<dc:creator>T.U.V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 17:28:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, a nice article, I am using this in webpages, but it doesn't work in servers or pages that have harder security demands and passwords need to be changed periodically. If someone have idea for them, I'd like to hear it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, a nice article, I am using this in webpages, but it doesn&#8217;t work in servers or pages that have harder security demands and passwords need to be changed periodically. If someone have idea for them, I&#8217;d like to hear it!</p>
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		<title>By: J.L.</title>
		<link>http://www.ideashower.com/our_solutions/remember-just-one-password-thats-unique-for-every-site/#comment-3294</link>
		<dc:creator>J.L.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 11:23:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I am using quite a similar method for years now and it really does work. I manage a heap of computers and remembering all the passwords without a formla of some kind would not be possible. Having all passwords exactly the same, well, it would be plain disaster, as you sometimes need to give the password to a client or a co-worker. 

I just need to point out, that the forumla should not be too easy to figure out with just looking at a few known passwords. So adding more variables that are not so easy to spot helps.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I am using quite a similar method for years now and it really does work. I manage a heap of computers and remembering all the passwords without a formla of some kind would not be possible. Having all passwords exactly the same, well, it would be plain disaster, as you sometimes need to give the password to a client or a co-worker. </p>
<p>I just need to point out, that the forumla should not be too easy to figure out with just looking at a few known passwords. So adding more variables that are not so easy to spot helps.</p>
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		<title>By: Ishmael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ishmael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 16:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good idea. This was suggested by a teacher of mine a while back, and although I don't do it, it's a great idea.

What I hate is when sites have bogus requirements for your passwords (like case, or numbers, or special characters). It's impossible to make a single phrase that works for any account. I like having a secure password, but some sites don't allow special characters, and some require them.

@Will
Then the only thing that changes is the number sequence at the end, and you're forced to remember numbers rather than an actual password.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good idea. This was suggested by a teacher of mine a while back, and although I don&#8217;t do it, it&#8217;s a great idea.</p>
<p>What I hate is when sites have bogus requirements for your passwords (like case, or numbers, or special characters). It&#8217;s impossible to make a single phrase that works for any account. I like having a secure password, but some sites don&#8217;t allow special characters, and some require them.</p>
<p>@Will<br />
Then the only thing that changes is the number sequence at the end, and you&#8217;re forced to remember numbers rather than an actual password.</p>
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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.ideashower.com/our_solutions/remember-just-one-password-thats-unique-for-every-site/#comment-3217</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Jul 2008 19:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I do is take an animal, food, color, etc. that I enjoy (only one) and misspell the word. Like changing an s to a z. Then you add numbers. For example for different accounts on computers you could have your laptop be e.g. googul11 and then make your password for your asus eee pc googul12 or 21 and then your desktop googul23 or 32. Then just have a longer one for your email (one of a kind) (e.g. you could make it googul321. And then a you could have a unique one for all of your social sites. Like for twitter, myspace, meebo. E.g. googul234. And then one for your file storage sites. E.g. googul456. Anyways... it's the same word, just misspelled so it is hard to guess, with a different set of numbers at the end. [:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I do is take an animal, food, color, etc. that I enjoy (only one) and misspell the word. Like changing an s to a z. Then you add numbers. For example for different accounts on computers you could have your laptop be e.g. googul11 and then make your password for your asus eee pc googul12 or 21 and then your desktop googul23 or 32. Then just have a longer one for your email (one of a kind) (e.g. you could make it googul321. And then a you could have a unique one for all of your social sites. Like for twitter, myspace, meebo. E.g. googul234. And then one for your file storage sites. E.g. googul456. Anyways&#8230; it&#8217;s the same word, just misspelled so it is hard to guess, with a different set of numbers at the end. [:</p>
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		<title>By: Carl Campbell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carl Campbell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only it were so simple - unfortunately as sites become increasingly more security conscious, they add more restrictions to the size and composition of the passwords. Since they are all doing this independently, they often choose restrictions that are in conflict with those of other sights.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only it were so simple - unfortunately as sites become increasingly more security conscious, they add more restrictions to the size and composition of the passwords. Since they are all doing this independently, they often choose restrictions that are in conflict with those of other sights.</p>
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		<title>By: Ashish Bogawat</title>
		<link>http://www.ideashower.com/our_solutions/remember-just-one-password-thats-unique-for-every-site/#comment-2845</link>
		<dc:creator>Ashish Bogawat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 11:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The password can be made more secure by using a combination of different cases and replacement letters (for example 5 instead of s, 7 for T and so on).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The password can be made more secure by using a combination of different cases and replacement letters (for example 5 instead of s, 7 for T and so on).</p>
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		<title>By: Totalnubee</title>
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		<dc:creator>Totalnubee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 03:32:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also check out PasswordMaker: http://passwordmaker.sourceforge.net/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also check out PasswordMaker: <a href="http://passwordmaker.sourceforge.net/" rel="nofollow">http://passwordmaker.sourceforge.net/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Robin Millette</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Millette</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 13:18:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Another variation is to make your password a dictionary word, but to move your fingers one or two keys to the left (or right) while typing. Easy enough to remember.

That said, you should simply demand OpenID: http://demand.openid.net/ :)

PS: I've been thinking about a site like this (ideas, solutions) for years, congrats for making it your reality!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Another variation is to make your password a dictionary word, but to move your fingers one or two keys to the left (or right) while typing. Easy enough to remember.</p>
<p>That said, you should simply demand OpenID: <a href="http://demand.openid.net/" rel="nofollow">http://demand.openid.net/</a> <img src='http://www.ideashower.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>PS: I&#8217;ve been thinking about a site like this (ideas, solutions) for years, congrats for making it your reality!</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 00:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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